Materialists, the second film from Past Lives director Celine Song, is that rare modern movie in which love is studied through the lens of drama and character. It’s done not through grand romantic acts but through conversation.

"Keeping things vague would be cowardly for a movie called 'Materialists,'" says the writer-director, who also discusses how her film's stars, Dakota Johnson, Chris Evans and Pedro Pascal, relate to its themes.

Celine Song’s new “Materialists” takes a deep look at love and value via a rom-com, a genre that she argues is wrongfully dismissed: “What is more important than love?”